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ANY group that has a song with the chorus “Aaaaargh! Aaargh! Aaaaaargh!” must be pretty good. Bristol cider punks Disorder were precisely one such band. Plus, they are named after the fantastic Joy Division track. Me, Doug and John went to see them, Antisect and Amebix at one of Nick Toczek’s excellent and cheap (£2/£1.50) gigs at the Bierkeller in Leeds in December 1983.

As the intro to the original interview in my zine put it:

Lots of people were drunk so it might not make all that much sense in places. For realism, add lots of stupid laughing in between each question.

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“WE WALKED around for a while before we could find someone to tell us where the gig was. We went up these endless dark steps up to a massive hall with lots of people with funny hairstyles, selling ace fanzines called Kill Your Pet Puppy, while other people with green and red dreadlocks smoked sweet-smelling ciggies. We sat in front of the stage and read some fanzines.

The Passion Killers came on and did a lot of songs and I liked them all. There were three of them and the drummer was very good. They went off and I went to the toilet.

When I came back, D&V were on and by now the hall was filling up with girls with fluffy pink hair and studded leather jackets with ‘The Destructors’ painted on the back. There were lots of other people as well but I didn’t really notice them. Anyway, D&V were ace. They did the stuff off their Crass record and most people seemed to like them.

Zillions of people came onstage and started to put a washing line up on stage. A bloke started sweeping up in the middle of the audience. Chumbawamba’s set was very theatrical, with people swapping instruments, chalking stuff on the floor, and splashing red paint over Action Men and themselves. Some of the songs were slow, gentle ballads, I suppose, and others were like wall of noise aaaaargh-type things. I liked it…”

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DOUG and me interviewed Stig and Aphid (aka the Baron) of Amebix at the Bierkeller in Leeds in December 1983, where they were appearing on a bill which also featured Disorder and Antisect.

amebixWith a rather confrontational interview style – the modus operandi seems to be to get drunk and ask as many awkward, deliberately stupid questions as possible – we collided with a band who were desperate to break out of a punk scene they felt they had little in common with.

This fractious encounter makes up the second part of our February anarcho-punk double whammy.

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WHY are you so obsessed with war?

Aphid: “We’re trying to make people aware that there are certain situations arising that could result in a nuclear war in Europe. There’s not a great deal else happening to write about. So I can’t find any other inspiration”.

Is Britain approaching the beginning of the end?

A: “I can’t say. I’m not a politician”.

Did you start the band to just have a laugh or did you want to achieve something?

A: “Basically, we started just as a piss about. Stig got a little guitar and a little amplifier, a bloke called Clive got a bass and another shitty amp and we had a drummer sitting on a motorbike seat hitting a biscuit tin. We just pissed about, really.

“We used to play a lot in Devon and got ourselves a really bad reputation. One gig we played, out at a place called Milton Abbott, there were about 150 kids there, not punks, mostly ordinary kids. We just said, ‘if you don’t like it, you can fuck off out of the hall’, so everybody left. Except this one kid who was a mate of ours. Everybody else was outside getting pissed”.

So, have you actually changed anything since the band formed?

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The Mob

LARGELY forgotten by all but what remains of the anarcho-punk cognoscenti, Mark, Curtis and Joseph were a trio of hippy punks from Yeovil who subverted the mores of the ‘Crass punk’ scene with a less strident, less straightforward, more soulful approach than many other bands associated with Crass.

Thanks to a very groovy local CND organiser, John Bennett, who hired a van, a load of us went over to Doncaster Co-op Hall to see what turned out to be their last gig, alongside Benjamin Zephaniah, D&V, Chumbawamba and the Passion Killers.

Their set was pretty intense, with the band running through stuff like Witch Hunt, No Doves Fly Here and Stay, as well as lots of tunes from their album, Let The Tribe Increase. I danced my little socks off.

I wanted to interview them for my fanzine but something came up on the night and by the time they got around to answering the questions I posted to them later, they’d decided to call it a day.

For some reason, I always thought it was Curtis who answered the questions but the quotes were, strangely, unattributed in the zine, so now I‘m not so sure. Hmmm.

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THERE’S a definite absence of songs about animal rights on Mob records – is this because you think it’s a relatively unimportant issue?

“The Mob started before it became the done thing to write about issues (war/animal liberation/violence). The songs were more personal and not about specific things. One of the reasons the Mob stopped was because of the pressure to write songs about specific targets such as animal rights.

“It is very dangerous to assume that, so long as people come up with the right answers and is ‘ideologically sound’, then that group or person is okay because then it all becomes very moralistic – the most difficult thing to do is get on, and live, be a whole human being.

“Hitler was a vegetarian”.

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